The LSA, the CMP, and Ordering M1911 Pistols

The recent announcement by the Civilian Marksmanship Program that they MAY obtain surplus Model of 1911 pistols for sale to the public has sparked a tremendous amount of interest by collectors and shooters alike.  If you have ordered rifles from the CMP in the past, you may think you're an "old hat" at this sort of thing, but think again.  The CMP plans to sell the M1911 pistols through a very different mechanism than their rifle sales.  So, if you're an old hat or brand new to purchasing firearms from the CMP, read on.

But first let me answer one of the most common questions.  Yes, being a member of the LSA satisfies the requirement to be a member of a CMP-affiliated club.

The CMP now has a dedicated page on their website for information on M1911 sales.  Here is a synopsis of some decisions that have already been made if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

  1. It's not a done deal! Although it appears to be highly likely, the US Government has NOT finalized the approval through congress, so the CMP does not currently have the M1911 pistols in their warehouses and definitely does not have permission to sale surplus M1911 pistols to the public.
  2. There will be a whole new system. The CMP plays by different rules than a standard Federal Firearms License (FFL) holder.  A standard FFL dealer could not directly send a rifle to your home mailing address, but the CMP can mail that M1 Garand directly to you.  However, the CMP will not be able to send a M1911 to your home address, because it is a pistol.
    • The CMP will have an all-new M1911 order form, M1911 purchasing instructions, a M1911 page on their web site, a dedicated M1911 FFL fax number and email address for the FFL holder to send their FFL with customer's name attached.
    • The customer will have to send in a complete new order packet with all new qualifying criteria included. Everyone will be a new customer, everyone starts with no advantage or disadvantage. "CMP 1911" is an FFL-governed operation and is a separate entity from CMP and has to have its own record keeping operation with no ties to the old CMP records. So, if you've order from the CMP in the past, your CMP Customer Number will do you no good.  You'll soon have both a CMP Customer Number and a CMP 1911 Customer Number.
  3. You will have to re-qualify (or qualify if new to this) to purchase firearms. Potential purchasers will have to provide to the CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP-affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01, or 02, or 07 Federal Firearms License through which the M1911 will be transferred to you. From the volume of phone calls and emails I've received since this announcement, "proof of participation in a marksmanship activity" has many people baffled.  Here are some things that might help you understand this requirement.
    • You must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the safe handling of firearms and range procedures.
    • Your marksmanship related activity does not have to be with a M1911 pistol; it can be with small bore rifles, high power rifles, pistols, air guns or shotguns.
    • Proof of marksmanship participation can be provided by documenting any of the following:
      • Current or past military or law enforcement service.
      • Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
      • Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
      • Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
      • Concealed Carry License.
      • Firearms Owner Identification Card that includes live fire training.
      • FFL or C&R license.
      • Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
      • Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your r ange firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site here.
      • No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60.
  4. They don't know what they'll be selling! Since the US Army has not transferred the M1911 pistols to the CMP, they have not graded them yet.  Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the M1911 pistols will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity that will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. The CMP will price at fair market value in accordance with CMP's enabling legislation.
  5. If you want every variant of the M1911, it will take a while. Qualified CMP customers will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
  6. Your Curio and Relics FFL (Type 03 FFL) is no stinking good here. M1911 pistols purchased from the CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL license. The BATFE and the United States Army prefer that TWO NICS checks be performed on each customer: one by the CMP, and one by an FFL dealer during the final transfer.
  7. Why two NICS checks? First Reason:  The first NICS check makes sure the customer can legally possess the M1911 pistol prior to shipping it to the local 01, or 02, or 07 FFL dealer.  The CMP, Congress, and the United States Army do not want the M1911 to have to be shipped back to CMP 1911 if the purchaser is not legal to possess.  The more in transit the pistol is, the more likely it could be lost or stolen.  The second NICS check is performed by the local 01, or 02, or 07 FFL in accordance with their standard transfer procedures. Second Reason:  CMP’s enabling legislation mandated by Congress specifies that the purchaser “successfully pass a thorough and complete background check,” i.e. NICS.  CMP cannot turn any firearm over to the purchaser until it receives a “proceed” from NICS. The local FFL can turn the pistol over after 72 business hours have elapsed if they have not heard back from NICS.  Turning the pistol over after 72 hours and not getting a “proceed” does not satisfy CMP’s enabling legislation mandated by Congress.  This leaves CMP no choice but to have a NICS check done and get a “proceed” to satisfy its enabling legislation, before shipping to the local 01, or 02, or 07 FFL.

Once the CMP gets permission from Congress to sale the surplus M1911 pistols, they will post this information on their web site.  As soon as the LSA learns this date, we'll let our members know.  Until that time, keep your fingers crossed!

House Bill 223

LSA President Dan Zelenka recently addressed a letter to Members of the Louisiana House of Representatives.

2016 Meeting of Members and Elections

The Annual Meeting of Members and Elections of the Louisiana Shooting Association took place on February 21, 2016.

Each year, the Members of the LSA elect a Board of Directors consisting of 15 members and two Alternate Directors. Each Director is elected to a 3-year term and each Alternate Director is elected to a 1-year term. Once the Board of Directors is chosen, the Directors then elect Officers of the Corporation from among the 15 Directors. The 2016 Officers and Directors of the LSA are:

President: Daniel E. Zelenka, II (term expires 2019)
Vice President: Daniel Plunkett (term expires 2017)
Secretary: Paul Prokop (term expires 2018)
Treasurer: Jay D. Hunt, III (term expires 2018)

Directors
Paul Angrisano (term expires 2019)
James Biermann (term expires 2017)
Bill Biossat (term expires 2018)
Gordon Hutchinson (term expires 2017)
Barret Kendrick (term expires 2019)
Ronald (Buck) Kliebert (term expires 2018)
John Laws (term expires 2019)
Gerald E. (Jerry) Liuzza (term expires 2017)
Joseph “Jay” Meynier (term expires 2019)
George Petras (term expires 2017)
Ted Torres (term expires 2018)

1st Alternate Director: Clifford Grout (term expires 2017)
2nd Alternate Director: Keith Lemoine (term expires 2017)

No Guns = No Money

We’ve all seen the signs on the door. The uninformed shop owner does not want firearms in his establishment. As law-abiding gun owners, we pass his shop in favor of a more enlightened merchant, but we have that awful feeling in our gut that makes us want to educate the uniformed.

As a Louisiana Concealed Handgun Permit Holder, I
• have NOT been convicted of a felony,
• have NOT been committed for the abuse of a controlled dangerous substance, am NOT an unlawful user of marijuana, depressants, stimulants, or narcotic drugs, and do NOT chronically and habitually use alcoholic beverages,
• have NOT been adjudicated to be mentally deficient or been committed to a mental institution,
• have NOT been found guilty of a crime of violence,
• am NOT a fugitive from justice, and
• HAVE been trained by a Certified Firearms Instructor
How much does that shop owner know about his other customers, particularly that criminal that could care less about his wishes and carries an illegally concealed weapon?

Now, you may download a PDF file that will allow you to print business sized cards with this exact message on them. Simply print, trim, and carry them with you in your wallet or purse. When you see the sign in the window, slip the card to the owner and go on your way. If the owner gets enough of these cards, he’ll realize the amount of money he is losing to his uninformed and ill-conceived policy.

Instructions for Use:

To use the form, click the download button to the right. Once you have downloaded the PDF, you may print the cards on plain paper or card stock, and trim along the lines. Alternatively, you may purchase any plain colored business card templates made by Avery (available at most office supply stores), and use the PDF template to print onto Avery business cards.

Please remember, be polite when presenting these cards. If the shop owner wants to argue, walk away. If the shop owners wants more information, you may direct him to the LSA for more information.


Sen. Rick Ward, III receives Legislative Excellence Award

senatorwardThe Louisiana Shooting Association, in recognition of the state legislator who by action has demonstrated the highest commitment to the protection of Second Amendment rights, established the Louisiana Shooting Association Legislative Excellence Award in 2010.

This annual award is presented to the legislator selected by unanimous vote of the LSA Board of Directors based upon that legislators actions during the most recent legislative session. The criteria used in the final selection of the award recipient includes an evaluation of the candidates continued support of responsible firearm use and ownership, their role in protecting legitimate firearm owners from ineffective and punitive legislation, and their support of appropriate law enforcement efforts relative to firearm issues.

With these factors in mind, it is with great appreciation and pride that the LSA announces the 2015 recipient of the Louisiana Shooting Association Legislative Excellence Award, Senator Rick Ward, III (R, District 17). Sen. Ward serves as Chairman of the Senate Judiciary A Committee.

Past Winners of the Legislative Excellence Award include:

2010 Rep. Ernest Wooton
2011 Rep. Cameron Henry
2012 Sen. Neil Riser
2013 Rep. Jeff R. Thompson
2014 Rep. Joseph Lopinto

Polo Shirts, New T-shirt Colors!

polo-shirtsThe LSA is now offering polo shirts! Few can resist the delightfully soft hand and lightweight honeycomb knit texture of our 100% pima cotton polo. Crafted with 100% pima cottonone of the highest grades of cotton in the world. 6.2-ounce 100% pima cotton. The shirts have double-needle stitching throughout, flat knit collars and cuffs, locker patches, 3-button plackets, pearl buttons, side vents, and are embroidered with the LSA logo over left breast. Six polo shirt colors are available: Banana, Ivory, Light Pink, Sea Foam, Stone, and White. The embroidered logo has black lettering and black shooters over a forest green state.

The LSA is now offering our official short sleeve T-shirt in four colors: Sports Grey, Sand, Gold (new), and Military Green (new). The shirts feature a large LSA logo on the back and a small LSA logo over the left breast. The logos on the Sports Grey, Sand, and Gold shirts will feature black lettering and black shooters over a forest green state. The logos on the Military Green shirts will feature black lettering and black shooters over a white state. Long sleeve T-shirts are still available in Sports Grey and Sand featuring the LSA logos on front and back with black lettering and black shooters over a forest green state. Larger sizes of short sleeve and long sleeve T-shirts are now back in stock!

No Guns = No Money

We’ve all seen the signs on the door. The uninformed shop owner does not want firearms in his establishment. As law-abiding gun owners, we pass his shop in favor of a more enlightened merchant, but we have that awful feeling in our gut that makes us want to educate the uniformed.

As a Louisiana Concealed Handgun Permit Holder, I
• have NOT been convicted of a felony,
• have NOT been committed for the abuse of a controlled dangerous substance, am NOT an unlawful user of marijuana, depressants, stimulants, or narcotic drugs, and do NOT chronically and habitually use alcoholic beverages,
• have NOT been adjudicated to be mentally deficient or been committed to a mental institution,
• have NOT been found guilty of a crime of violence,
• am NOT a fugitive from justice, and
• HAVE been trained by a Certified Firearms Instructor
How much does that shop owner know about his other customers, particularly that criminal that could care less about his wishes and carries an illegally concealed weapon?

Now, you may download a PDF file that will allow you to print business sized cards with this exact message on them. Simply print, trim, and carry them with you in your wallet or purse. When you see the sign in the window, slip the card to the owner and go on your way. If the owner gets enough of these cards, he’ll realize the amount of money he is losing to his uninformed and ill-conceived policy.

Instructions for Use:

To use the form, click the download button to the right. Once you have downloaded the PDF, you may print the cards on plain paper or card stock, and trim along the lines. Alternatively, you may purchase any plain colored business card templates made by Avery (available at most office supply stores), and use the PDF template to print onto Avery business cards.

Please remember, be polite when presenting these cards. If the shop owner wants to argue, walk away. If the shop owners wants more information, you may direct him to the LSA for more information.

LSA Bumper Stickers and Decals

When the LSA reduced the cost of membership from $20 to $10, it was decided that we could no longer afford to give away LSA decals any longer. However, several people have requested a source of bumper stickers and decals. We have partnered with Zazzle to produce a few of these items. If you would like to purchase stickers, a coffee mug, etc., please click the link to visit their site.